Great Regulars: What I remember out our first conversation

is that it was precisely that: a conversation. Literature figured, of course, but didn't predominate. Poetry came up, sure, but in a perfectly natural way. It was actually easy to forget that Dan [Hoffman] is one of our best poets and a former poet laureate. In retrospect, I realize that one of the things that makes Dan a great poet is that, for him, life comes first and the poetry grows out of that.

from Frank Wilson: Per Contra: Life Comes First

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