to have "formal clarity," which doesn't necessarily refer to rhyme and meter: "You have to get a feeling when you read a poem of the shape of it, the way it moves from top to bottom, the argument, the stanzas, the lines . . . that all of it is strongly made. I think form and art is crucial. Otherwise it's no different than (two people) talking on the phone."
from The Portland Tribune: Portlander resurrects Poetry Northwest
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