which is separate from meaning as communication, or so it seems to me.For example, the language that we hear in dreams is very important to me. I wake up with these words that have just been spoken, and they somehow have a meaning beyond what is possible, even beyond expression. So what is that? It's almost like the meaning of music. It's a sort of super meaning that I don't know much about except that it constantly attracts me and makes me want to include it in my poems.
from The Christian Science Monitor: Interview with poet John Ashbery
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